Today I'd like to share a bit about Chiron's position in each person's chart. And the most personal interpretation would be Chiron's house position. So here is Chiron through the houses, including the names of famous people who share that Chiron position. This is excerpted from my book, Essence and Application: A View from Chiron, and was originally printed in my booklet, Interpreting Chiron.
Chiron Through The Houses
Copyright 2005 by Zane B Stein
First House: This person orients himself to the universe in a way that goes beyond any particular path, established viewpoint or structured life-style. The first impression this person gives is that he cannot be categorized. He looks familiar sometimes, but you cannot put your finger on the reason. The eyes have a look about them as if the person were from another dimension, a stranger in a strange land. There is a refusal to let any obstacle interfere with the pursuit of his personal growth. If some such obstacle exists, he goes through it as if it did not, or tries to. Overcoming obstacles and resolving problems, in fact, is one way this person discovers himself. He believes he has something in common with everyone he meets and that all people should also have that belief. In the developed type there is a special knack for opening doors for others and a desire for all people to exist on the same level, thus a hatred of inequality. Unless there are serious aspects to the contrary, these people are dynamic, radiating energy, and tend to be quite disarming. Their integrity is usually beyond question (unless the rest of the chart drastically disagrees.) There is a strong "loner" quality to their personal lives, even though they may deal with people all the time. They often have the ability to get around the system, the unique ability to see beyond what others see, and often have a "wild" look in their eyes which makes them quite attractive.
Norman Mailer, Rollo May, Mercedes McCambridge, Dan Rather, John Scali, Mike Schmidt, Anne Tyler, Archie Griffin, John DeLorean, Uri Geller, Rex Harrison, R.D. Laing, Vincent Price, Burt Reynolds, Rennie Davis, Kareen Abdul-Jabbar, Gregg Allman, Vida Blue, James Arness, Steve McQueen, Wilt Chamberlain, Huey P. Long, James Stewart, Marshall Tito, Adelle Davis, Joseph Alioto, Rosie Greer, Pete Townshend, Sally Fields
Second House: Once these people become aware of what direction they are going in life they have the ability to draw upon unimaginable resources. Their desires are extremely powerful and they truly feel that nothing should stand in the way of the gratification of those desires. On a lower level there is a desire to control friendships and relationships. There is an ongoing search for people who's personal values are the same as theirs, and their attitude toward money and possessions is quite unique. There are lessons to be learned about money, possessions, values, and other forms of personal resources, but once they have learned these there is often a need to help others who are poor or needy in some way. They are capable of total immersion in their work to the point where they become extremely skilled in one specific field. This position also gives them inventiveness, often a good deal of technical skill, and an increase in management ability. Once they have found something they truly value, or something they feel is truly worthwhile, they take it quite seriously and it provides them with a great sense of personal power and an air of authority. Usually they are quite observant. There also seems to be a great attraction for all eighth house affairs such as power, sex and the occult. Unless other things point to the contrary they are usually "cool, calm"
William Lipscomb, Marsha Mason, Kate Millett, Walter Mondale, Jack Paar, James Wyeth, Marjoe Gortner, Mick Jagger, Mike Love, Cat Stevens, Alice Cooper, David Bowie, Johnny Wiessmuler, Bobby Fischer, Malcolm Dean, Benjamin Disraeli, Anthony Armstrong Jones, Jean Claude Killy, Sandy Koufax, Bela Lugois, Henri Petain, Max Schmeling, Leopold Stokowski, Arturo Toscanini, Pearl S. Buck, Barry Goldwater, Eva Braun, Don Ameche, Kenneth Berquist, Karen Black, Craig Breedlove, Garth Allen, "Mean" Joe Greene, John Updike, James Daly, Diane Feinstein, Lauren Hutton, Sally Struthers, Sharon Tate
Third House: Unless other things point to the contrary, there is an innate belief (which goes back to childhood) that all things are possible. Relationships of all kinds are always on these people's minds. In the lower type the sense of humor is very "pornographic" (dirty-minded), which stems from the importance of relationships. No matter what social level they are on they have an ability to think like, and communicate with, the common man. Even the people who have elevated their minds are usually noted for their good sense of humor. Basically they are of a liberal bent, often libertarians. They allow no limitations to stand in the way of their mental processes, and they let their thoughts roam everywhere, even to the taboo. In fact their logical minds are not confined to logic; they are very closely linked to their emotions, their instincts, and other areas; and their emotions are very easily aroused. Usually mental experimenters with fast minds, they tend to be mentally versatile, often controversial in thought and word, usually straightforward, possessed of a unique writing style, and often talkative.
Xaviera Hollander, Hugh Hefner, Larry Flynt, Gypsy Rose Lee, Jean Cocteau, Beverly Sills, Paul Newman, Robert Redford, O.J. Simpson, Clarence Lillehei, Roger Morton, George Steinbrenner, Casper Weinberger, Steve Cauthen, Phil Donahue, James Taylor, Arlo Guthrie, Algernon Swinburne, Joan Crawford, Betty Davis, Arthur Rimbaud, Ethel Merman, Dr. F. Regarde, Jean Paul Sarte, Robert Cummings, Betty Friedan, Erma Bombeck, Steve Allen, Ray Bradbury, Sigmund Freud, Alan Watts, Fritz Perls, Edgar Degas
Fourth House: These people feel a very strong tie to humanity. They feel deeply inside that they share common roots with all mankind and therefore have something in common with all people. There is usually a powerful desire to uplift others either mentally, emotionally or spiritually, and there is a powerful sympathy with the "little man", the common man, who can be victimized by larger groups and corporations. These people don't want to start anything they feel might fail, for to them failure is failing mankind, not just themselves. The want to enlighten others, to build a world where everyone is treated equally, to bring joy to everyone they meet. But their powerful insecurity surfaces if they feel they have failed --- they "can't fail!" If other things in the chart are unstable, this is a prime position for suicide when they feel they have failed. Also these people are extremely upset when things are going on without their knowledge, or when things are going on which exclude them, or exclude someone they know. Theirs is a deep feeling that the whole world is a family; this gives them a strong community spirit. There are two basic types: the extremely undervalued type, often shy, tense and nervous, whose fear of failure has kept him back somewhat; and the "tough under fire" type who receives great respect, is quite popular, and is comfortable being controversial. Both types like to work!
Ken Kesey, Henry Lewis, Mickey Lolich, James Lovell, Marie McCarthy, Patricia Neal, William Rehnquist, Donna Summer, Helen Hayes, John Lindsay, Joan Baez, Carmen Delavallade, Bradford Dillman, David Carradine, Arthur Godfrey, Ernest Hemingway, Lenny Bruce, Herman Hesse, Oscar Wilde, Dr. Sam Sheppard, Albert Speer, Vincent Van Gogh, Paul Goebbels, Hal Holbrook, Elton John, Karl Krafft, Troy Perry, Clifford Odets, Zubin Mehta, Mark Goodson, Walt Disney, John Denver, Ralph Nader, Jerry Reed, Robert Kastenmeier, Toulouse-Lautrec, Bonnie Franklin, Red Skelton, John Voight
Fifth House: These people want to be exclusively what they are; they don't want their creativity to be influenced by anyone else. They tend to be uninhibited and temperamental, and there is frequently an "anything goes" attitude in the way they express themselves. The less evolved types have reputations for loose morals or as playboy types. No rules govern their creativity, and their style is totally their own. These people have a certain something that lives on after they die. There is something so totally unique about them that people know who you are talking about when you mention this quality, mannerism or creation. These people have major lessons to learn through children and/or lovers, and these lessons will change their whole life-style, once learned. They often add a whole new career after pursuing one career for many years, yet frequently keep the old one as well. They have a strong competitive streak, lots of enthusiasm for their field, and if they need to train for something they train hard. Many are known for their sharp or caustic wit. There is often a strong bent toward trying to create a totally realistic style. They are true defenders of self-expression and freedom of thought, unless other things point to the contrary.
Earth Kitt, George Lucas, Ross McDonald, Burgess Meredith, Kenneth Patchen, Valerie Perrine, Richard Pryor, Philip Roth, Shirely Temple-Black, Sarah Vaughan, Merle haggard, Jules Lenier, Oscar Levant, Henry Miller, Chris Reeves, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Phoebe Snow, Ringo Starr, Simon Wiesenthal, Jacques Cousteau, John Derek, Barbara Streisand, Pierre Renoir, Bertrand Russell, Jean Harlow, Frank Sinatra, Melina Mercouri, Maria Callas, Tyrone Power, Rock Hudson, Robert Goulet, Art Arfons, Groucho Marx, Ruth Buzzi
Sixth House: These people have unique health problems. Often what seems to help others does nothing for them, or does the opposite of what it was meant to do. But health is a dominant
concern for them. If these people come to terms with their own health problems there is often a strong desire to help others in the medical field. They are hard-working people, determined, with a sense of duty and self-responsibility. They pay a lot of attention to detail and often develop unique skills at some craft or handicraft. Whatever they decide is the best avenue for their skills, they want to be as expert and perfect as possible, and hate being restricted to any category within their field. They want freedom to try any and all techniques that may perfect their skills and enable them to best do the job. Most of these people are shy and introverted as children. Often they are poor or indifferent students in spite of the fact that they have high intelligence. As adults they are often brooding, withdrawn, and leaning toward pessimism or realism; very few optimists have this position. They often appear as cold, aloof and into their own private worlds. Unevolved types consider everyone as either inferior or superior to themselves. Two reasons for the previous two sentences are: they fear the ending of any relationship because it is extremely painful to them so they are afraid of getting too closely involved with anyone; and they have great lessons to learn in the way of service, and until these are learned, they fear not knowing how much of themselves to give (the fear of being used.), so they may appear to be selfish. But when they overcome these fears they can be the most giving, helpful and healing types.
Mia Farrow, James Goddard, Joe Grey, Alan Leo (opposition Asc.), Janet Leigh, Daniel Nathans, Robert Wagner, Jackie Onassis, Bob Hope, Ingrid Bergman, Gwendolyn Brooks, Geraldine Chaplin, Francis Ford Coppola, Jimmy Carter, A. E. Housman, Lous Pasteur, Maurice Ravel, Auguste Rodin, Joanne Woodward, Rita Hayworth, Lana Turner, Errol Flynn, Katherine Hepburn, Eleanor Bach, Stephen Crane, Sir William Crookes, Dr. Tom Dooley, Dennis Weaver, Clint Eastwood, Dustin Hoffman, Billy Rose, Martin Sheen, Cathy Rigby, John Knowles, Paul McCloskey, Liza Minelli, Pierre Salinger, Bruce Springsteen
Seventh House: These people don't like having to deal with people in any set pattern or order; theirs is, typically, a non-discriminatory approach dealing with others. But their need for contact with people is powerful, and especially contact with the opposite sex. Co-operation, however is difficult, and competitiveness is strong, especially with members of the same sex. They need to be seen as "just as good as" anyone else, and especially as good as anyone else in their own fields. Often high-strung, but almost always good in a debate, they are unyielding in their arguments. Many are strongly opinionated, and most have a crusading "urge". They are controversial, aggressive, often sharp tongued, usually loquacious and candid. The ability to improvise is strong. They are often flamboyant and have skill at clowning around. The family is usually very important. If they marry, it always opens up new worlds for them. Their enemies are always of a unique type and they find it hard not to have at least a few. They hate to get involved in any kind of party machinations, if they are in politics, and usually end up going against the machine or totally destroying it, thus becoming THE power.
Adlai Stevenson, Wendell Wilkie, John Anderson, Earl Warren, Richard Nixon, Fidel Castro, Benito Mussolini, Arthur Schlessinger, John Mitchell, Hamilton Jordan, Upton Sinclair, Redd Foxx, Brian Keith, Dennis Hopper, Kurt Russell, Yvette Mimieux, Susan St. James, John Cage, Eleanor Clark, Woody Herman, Ray Davies, John Entwhistle, Richard Basehart, John Barrymore, George Moscone, Carl Sandburg, Albert Schweitzer, Princess Grace of Monaco, William Blake, Rudolph Valentino, Mary Pickford, Rossano Brazzi, John Wayne, Gary Cooper, Charlton Heston, Sidney Poitier, Erwin Rommel, Bette Midler, Eleanor Smeal, Gloria Steinem, Gale Sayers, William Holden, Carol Channing.
Eighth House: These people usually have very strong instincts and often have to work hard to re-channel a basic animal or "killer" instinct into something constructive. There is usually a basic "coolness" or sophistication, yet you can sense that, beneath it, they are quite volatile. These are people who, if they work on themselves, develop great self-discipline, control and "toughness", yet there is still the "killer" instinct there. Often as children they are in trouble due to lack of self-control. These people try to concern themselves with simplicity, to get the basic "flavor" of something, or to get to the real roots of a situation. There is a desire for precision and often a love and desire for research, with a knack for quickly penetrating a problem. They want to develop an sharpen their power and skills and are quite capable of controlling others if they choose to do so. You can usually recognize them by their calm self-assurance, animal magnetism and sense of utter conviction. They have the potential to tap and channel vast energies and life forces, and to open doors to other worlds. Their sexual desires are often unique but they are capable of transcending them in ways others would not even think of. Their greatest lessons concern sex, power and death.
Omar Sharif, Yul Brynner, Henry Winkler, James Dean, Stacy Keach, Richard Chamberlain, Robert Mitchum, Montgomery Clift, Robert Blake, Ryan O'Neal, Karl Malden, Bruce Lee, Joe Frazier, Jackie Robinson, Jack Nicklaus, Eddie Arcaro, Indira Gandhi, Mao Tse Tung, Dr. Louis Berman, C. C. Zain, William Masters, Bishop James Pike, Komar, F. Scott Fitzgerald, Christopher Isherwood, Jack Kerouac, John Steinbeck, Yoko Ono, Leonard Bernstein, Jimi Hendrix, Raquel Welch, Elizabeth Montgomery, Deobrah Kerr, Christine Jorgensen, John Dunlop, Shirley Hufstedler, Lawton Chiles, Baudelaire
Ninth House: In their direction of interest these people have a talent for finding and understanding basic laws, general principles and the underlying significance of a situation; the root, basic meanings which are often hidden from others. They also can work with these in ways that are quite unbelievable, synthesizing them into more complex patterns, or finding ways to explain them to others in words that an ordinary person can understand. Or they may not use words as their medium but find some other way of communicating their in-depth understanding of symbols. It often comes out as a talent for simplifying technical explanations, an ability to "tune-in" on the current of today, a talent for really identifying with the audience, a desire to teach, or a fantastic ability to persuade (or mold public opinion.) They love challenges, are usually perceptive observers, good at ad-libbing, and outspoken with pronounced opinions. They have
a powerful need to seek others with the same philosophies and beliefs, and usually, an equally powerful need to convince nonbelievers to believe in them. In its most negative expression this produces a VERY narrow philosophy, a dislike or hatred of those who don't fit into this philosophy, and an almost "police mentality." Whether positively or negatively, they search for verification and clarification of what they believe in, in all areas of life.
Gay Talese, Paul Theroux, Tom Wicker, George Bernard Shaw, Andre Malraux, Alfred Hitchcock, Dane Rudhyar, John Addey, Marc Edmund Jones, Edgar Cayce, Nietzsche, David St. Clair, Judy Blume, John Clifford, Graham Nash, Jack Sheldon, Dolly Parton, Eric Satie, Edouard Manet, Andy Warhol, Howard Cosell, Julie Andrews, Goldie Hawn Greta Garbo, Jim Bailey, Roddy McDowell, Candice Bergen, Ava Gardner, Shelley Fabares, Robert Stack, Ronald Reagan (if you use the Cancer-rising chart), William Colby, J. Edgar Hoover, Richard Daley, George Wallace, Ayatollah Khomeini, Adolf Hitler, Herman Goering, Everett LeRoy Jones, James Earl Ray, John W. Gacy, Enrico Fermi, Lotte Strahl, Stanley Hiller, Mary Wells, Arthur Okun
Tenth House: These people drive themselves hard in their own field, often keeping gruelling schedules. yet they are usually known for being vital, alive and hardworking with a single-mindedness of purpose and a hatred of inactivity. When they talk about their purpose they tend to lecture like a preacher. It is not unusual for them to reach a high position in some field without many of the requirements which are normally necessary to do so, such as a high school graduate working at a job usually filled by a college graduate. In any event, they are usually in a position where they just don't seem to fit in with their co-workers, such as the only non-family member in a family-run business. Even if they chose a field where it is normal to be "different", they still seem to just not be like anyone else in the field. Thus they are definitely conspicuous and capable of making quite an impact on their profession. They are known for having a "something extra" which makes them stand out as mavericks, or for NOT having something which others in their field have which also makes them stand out. The public knows these people for their willingness to go beyond conventional methods in their careers, even if there is opposition from others, and they often disdain critics. Many have a great charisma. They usually have a fast wit and tend to be known for their self-deprecating humor . They always feel they must have an immediate goal, and if they don't have one they invent one. Often they find it difficult to concern themselves with long-range goals. They make good crusaders.
Jerry Lewis, Paul Lynde, Tom Poston, Jonathan Winters, Tom Smothers, Peter Ustinov, Flip Wilson, Tom Bosley, Dick Cavett, Truman Capote, Gale Storm, Loretta Young, Shirley MacLaine, Marilyn Monroe, Judy Garland, Joan Caufield, Diana Ross, Orson Welles, Willie Nelson, Sam Peckinpah, William Saroyan, Alfred Tennyson, Paul Verlaine, Giuseppe Verdi, Jack Anderson, Thomas Huxley, Isabelle Pagan, Alan Oken, Alice Anne Bailey, Nikola Tesla, Michel Gauquelin, Georg Moore, Milton Shapp, Thomas Eagleton, Robert McNamara, Jerry Rubin, F. Lee Bailey, Leon Trotsky.
Eleventh House: Major lessons for these people include choosing friends and associates wisely, learning how to deal with the ways in which other people express their own unique abilities and talents, understanding children other than their own, and fitting versus non-fitting into society. One's Chiron can become submerged in this house, never seeming to surface, unless one finds a unique role in society. Then one becomes very much the maverick. The urge to participate in society is unusually strong, and this group is quite aware of the needs and desires of their peers. In fact, once they find their own unique niche, they often become the hub or center for a whole group of people, leading the way down a different path, or bringing together people with a common goal. But for those who cannot find a totally unique role there is an overpowering need to "fit", to be part of society, and this usually comes out in one of two ways: either a VERY marked conservative streak, or a total disillusionment with society leading to a revolutionary tendency. In the former, there is a tendency to seem "solid" or "dull", and to appeal to a conservative crowd. Often one has a "loser" image, even if in no way a loser, and a tendency to be modest about one's achievements and, in general, to have a low-key or understated manner and a tendency toward self-deprecation. It is quite common for someone to start off as one of the above types and then switch to another. One thing everyone in this position wants to be is a problem-solver, so many become interested in science. Their hopes and wishes are very powerful. They have strong ideals, and once they have a specific picture of the world they want to live in they will let no closed doors keep them from getting there. In most, loyalty, team spirit and sportsmanship are very strong.
Edith Custer, Herman Melville, William F. Buckley, Dr. Benjamin Spock, Robin Moore, O. Henry, Vance Packard, John Gardner, William Lamb, Robert Good, Luis Alvarez, Dr. Brian Marsden, Albert Einstein, Allard Lowenstein, Charles Duncan, Henry Kissinger, Gamal Abdul Nassar, Governor Jerry Brown, Yvonne Burke, Richard Alpert (Ram Dass), Anita Bryant, Jane Fonda, Diane Baker, Peter Graves, Phyllis Diller, Bob Crane, Linda Blair, Viven Leigh, Jack Nicholson, Merv Griffin, Diane Keaton, Gregory Peck, Lawrence Welk, Tom Jones, B. J. Thomas, Jose Feliciano, Judy Collins
Twelfth House: These people are experimenters and are multi-talented. They always have at least one goal to work on and an unlimited desire to learn and to increase the foundation of knowledge. Most especially, they want to learn of the hidden truths behind the apparent reality, to the point where they have a fear that some door will open to them when they are unprepared, so they feel that they must always try to learn as much as they can on every subject (to prepare them for anything they may uncover.) They have an interest in the past, and usually a talent for bringing things from the past into the present to make them once again serve a useful purpose. Almost always they have many projects going on at the same time so they are frequently in danger of overextending themselves. They usually have a very strong awareness of the unrealized potentials in both situations and people. Quite frequently they are known for their intellectual arrogance, and for the fact that they enjoy the role of dissenter. Yet it is quite common for them to not realize how they hinder themselves by holding maverick views. One of the most frequently experienced traits of this position is a tendency to not receive credit for things they have done, but at the same time they lack concern when this happens. There also exists a talent for "do-it-yourself" because often they cannot find anyone else to do what they want done. Most are moody. And most have a very strong awareness that the universe is filled with greater laws than those which are visible only through the five senses, and greater power than any which humans are capable of completely understanding.
Francoise Gauquelin, Neil Armstrong, Arthur Janov, Frank James Dixon, Pierre Teilhard de Chardin, Grigori Rasputin, Charles Richter, Al H. Morrison, Neil F. Michelsen, Noel Tyl, Richard Nolle, Kirk Oakes, Billy Graham, Toni Morrison, jean Stafford, Joan Didion, Leo Guild, Marcel Proust, James Blish, Walt Whitman, Robert Smithson, George Gershwin, Harry Belafonte, Harry Bertoia, Rockwell Kent, Ottorino Respighi, Miles Davis, Ron Ely, Robert Culp, Richard Crenna, Jim Backus, Sally Kellerman, Elizabeth Ashley, George Peppard, Jackie Gleason, Barbara Stanwyck, Audrey Hepburn, Dean Martin, Robert Taft, Jack Valenti, Patricia Harris, Francisco Franco, Jack Kemp, Brendan Byrne, Robert Kennedy, Willy Brandt, Linda Lovelace
Where's your Chiron?
Zane
